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  Why does this forum tolerate Cold steele and his mormonism beliefs ? Who`s next ?

  by smiddy in

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  2. friends

  i thought this forum was for people who were ex jw`s and pro jw`s and the like to debate ,discuss and reasonably talk about our differences ,and sometimes drift off into politics world events and whatever.. however over a period of time i have come across cold steel `s many posts which are nothing more than promoting his mormon religions point of view./beliefs what has that got to do with jehovahs witnesses and the concerns many have with the jw religion.?.

  it seems to me he is using this forum to promote his religion and is getting away with it over a long period of time.. how long before other cult religions see this as a springboard for promoting their own religion such as .

  sda`s ,christian scientists , christadelphians ,beroean bible students ,etc.etc.. where will it end if he is able to keep doing this ?.

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  Wow
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  Putin presents the Order of Parental Glory to a Russian Jehovah's Witness family

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/54643.

  presenting the order of parental gloryon the eve of international children’s day, vladimir putin presented the order of parental glory to parents of large families.

  the recipients included families from astrakhan and yaroslavl regions, the republics of karelia, buryatia, north ossetia-alania, perm and primorye territories, and khanty-mansi autonomous area – yugra.the order of parental glory was established by a presidential executive order signed in may 2008 and is awarded to parents (or adoptive parents) raising 7 or more children and ensuring due care for their health, education, and physical, spiritual and moral development.

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  Very interesting. This smacks of the local branch putting it together for what seems like obvious reasons. I too would really like an interpretation of the fathers speech in context. Very bizarre.
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  Disfellowshipped Brother Gives Public Talk in Kingdom Hall

  by The Searcher in

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  2. friends

  absolutely beautiful!.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vbmfx4isku.

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  Yeah this made me smile. Someone might have gotten removed over it though for not following procedure. Lol.
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  JW Wife not listening

  by rathernotsay in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hey guys, looking for some advice with what to do with my jw wife that is simply ignoring my wishes/demands.

  first a little back story, we have been married for 6 years and have 3 children together.

  she is a jw, and i am not (nor do i have any religious beliefs).

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  I dont know about the lock. I dont care for it. Pioneering is a drag. Pioneering with 3 small children is horrific. I camt imagine why she woukd choose that. Guilt no doubt. Wanting to be a better person, but not knowing it has nothing to do with that, and everything to do with her family.

  I sant to make this very clear. You NEED to make sure you take care of the lids furing meeting times. Whatever you do.....do that. Otherwise on the long run you risk loosi g them to. I grew up distant from my father because afyer all......he was going to die at the e d of the world......any day now. From a very young age, i decided this meant i couldnt be close to him.

  Your kids being exposed to this high control group......is the most important thing for you to consider.
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  How Do You Get Most of Your News?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i read that many people get their news from facebook.

  i look online mostly at fox news and the drudge report.

  very seldom do i look at cnn.😎.

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  NPR to know generally whats happening and business news. VICE for whats happening in the world and specialty reporting.

  Fox in my mind does not actually qualify as a news source.
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  How do you talk to a child that believes Jehovah/Armageddon is real

  by Anony Mous in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i'm having some serious issues with my child, she is now 5 and her mother is teaching her all sorts of things regards god, jehovah is real, in heaven, pray if you're scared, etc.

  the problem is the kid is scared of demons at night and also conflicted that i don't believe, she also figured out jehovah doesn't actually help her not to be scared.. i've tried explaining that i'm there for her, watching over at night.

  i've tried introducing her to various churches and beliefs so she understands there is a difference in believes and she likes those churches better than kingdom hall.

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  I remember having panic when I was 12, because my mom told me she didn't think we would make it to the year 2000. I remember the horror thinking about my dad dying (not a JW), my school friends dying, and ME dying. After all, I was a little boy, who didn't always do everything perfect!

  Terrible.

  My 2 cents is be honest with your daughter. You can always say that mommy believes in those things, but I don't. Nothing is going to come and get you here. You are safe, you are loved, and maybe i can cuddle with you for a few minutes while you sleep so you feel safe. Tell her they are made up, and there is nothing to worry about. Mommy believes in them, but it doesn't mean you have to.

  Unless of course you do believe in them, then adapt as needed. My point is just make her feel secure, and that she should trust her experience.....which I assume up to this point is devoid of evil spirits. :)
  
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  A JW explains Blood Fractions

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i was looking around from some information on the wt's stance concerning the use of stem cells, and i came across this article on a defending jehovah's witnesses blog.. rather than informing the reader all that much about stem cells, the author diverts the conversation into a discussion of "blood fractions" (*note: the term "blood fractions" appears to be another one of those wt bloodspeak terms coined by the wt.

  "blood components" or "blood products" are the terms used more frequently by the medical world.

  "fractions" implies tiny amounts).

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  OC and TD you guys are my favorites when it comes to the blood issue......one very close to my heart as people close to me have been directly affected, and it was the first brick to fall from the wall in my mind when I was waking up.

  So they follow the well known *moral* principle described as abiding by the "spirit of the Law" which is universally recognized as being logical.
  

  Anyone else read this and say to themselves.....what!? I also like that Grays anatomy (late 1800's to early 1900's) is used, considering at the time they would not really be able to determine what fractions were possible beyond what was visible. So he mentions 4 "components", but they are still only fractions of whole blood. If I eat half a pie, the 1/2 of the pie left is still a fraction of the pie. So the question is when does something go from "blood" to fraction. Who determines when this transformation takes place?

  I still have the luxury of speaking with many JW's that i am friends with, and even had a long conversation over weeks and e mails with a circuit overseer that was a friend of the family. His apologetic's came down to these 3 things when faced with the raw hypocrisy of the current doctrine.

  1) People aren't really disfellowshipped for this anymore. That isn't true, but it isn't really a lie either. It could be de-classified as a light sin at this point. No doubt if you are brazen about it, they may still DF you. Still, this does not seem to be something that happens, and JW's DO take blood many times when their privacy is properly upheld by the hospital.

  2) Blood is "bad medicine". This one always just kills me. I explain opiates are not ideal either, but if you are on one, its probably because the alternative is worse. When they tout bloodless medicine, I simply ask them what the millions of their brethren in third world countries are supposed to do with limited resources. We usually can't even get to the biblical reasons why it should be a conscience matter, because they seem hung up on the idea that blood makes you sick. The "yuck" factor if you will. I hear this from YOUNG JW's quite a bit. Keeping them from going to college seems to be working out.

  3) If JW's were wrong about blood, that would make us blood guilty. However the growth continues to accelerate (followed by a graph of the years blood policy was introduced, and the growth experienced within 5 years of the announcement). **facepalm**
  
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  JW Grandparent Drama

  by What Now? in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my mom and sisters have not had any contact with my family for the past year and a half.. we even recently announced a new pregnancy and none of them acknowledged it or called to say congratulations or anything.. this past week my non-witness grandfather passed away and i had thought that for the sake of his death and funeral, it being "necessary family business" that they would at least be civil in front of our other family.

  all of them still ignored me, my sisters didn't even speak to my children at all - to be honest i don't think my kids even knew who they were.

  for the sake of my grandmother i made a small attempt at the end of the day to say goodbye to my mother and she kind of just brushed past me and said goodbye without really looking at me.. anyways my grandmother told me later that my mom spoke to her and said "i love my daughter and i love my grandchildren and i'm so upset that she won't allow me to see them".

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  What would you be teaching your children if you allowed their father to be disrespected.....by FAMILY.......over petty high control behavior.

  It hurts. It sucks. You are in the right here. Why not write another letter. If nothing else, you know she will read it and not respond. But she cant un-read your words.
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  Crossing the Elders

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  few things draw my interest as much as people on this board who talk about the elders, the insidious little toadies who lurk around kingdom halls, the proverbial big fish in little ponds.

  it amazes me the terror and the veneration they inspire, as well as the occasional ridicule.

  it makes me wonder how they're selected and whether most of them come into the position with a sense of power, entitlement, authority and control, or whether many of them are pretty nice people and that i'm just hearing about the bad apples?

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  There are the really good ones, and the really bad ones. Then.....everyone else. They are subject to a system that makes them feel special, even if they technicslly know better. Their actions are laid out for them (flock book). Rarely do they ever think for themselves. The ones that do.....dont last.

  Remember, elders are taught they will be "chieftains" in the new world and are the "stars" in the hand of Christ in Revelation.
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  2017 Convention Video To Be Shown Regarding The 1975 Failure

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go3arnnsfkk&feature=youtu.be.

  no mention whatsoever that it was watchtower themselves that strongly hinted towards this date.

  instead they blame those who "put their trust in a date, not jehovah".. let's recap... .

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  I don't think anyone has commented along this line yet, but I think I know EXACTLY what they are doing. The current and younger generations of JW's are in what is some ways an on the surface kinder and gentler organization. They WILL be on the internet. They will stumble across things, and hear things, that they will wonder about or don't sound right.

  WT has been systematically re-writing its history for the current followers, and the younger ones still around. If you control the narrative, and give just enough, with a whitewashed explanation, you may defelct people.

  Example. Lets say you are a 20 something online, and see something about 1975. You have never heard of it before, so you ask or research it. You get a lot of information, and you might in fact see where something doesn't add up. Now you know something. But.....if you have already seen this video, maybe you just say to yourself..."ah those crafty apostates. I already know about this, and it was a few bad eggs. I'm going to endure"

  That is their goal. Guaranteed.